My Family Search in Ireland Thirty Years Later (August 2017)

After thirty years, I thought it was about time for an update of “My Family Search in Ireland (June 1986).” Certainly research has become a lot easier with so much primary source material now available for free or a small fee online. I had never even heard of the Internet back in 1986 and the World Wide Web wouldn’t be invented until 1989. Yet, despite all the advances in information availability, our understanding of Robinson story in Ireland has not really advanced much.

After coming back from the United States, I did do quite a bit of work on the immigrant James Robinsocoln and his descendants which you can read about in “A Family Story: The Robinsons of Plaquemines Parish.” This research overall I think strengthens the connection between James Robinson and the other Robinsons in Annaghdown Parish. In addition to his obituary and the stories told to Michael Curran by his aunts, I found that James Robinson’s wife, Mary Burke, also came from Annaghdown Parish. Her parents, Patrick Burke and Mary Collins, married in Menlough Parish, County Galway on 18 December 1824 but had moved to Annaghdown Parish by the time Mary was baptized on 2 November 1835. It seems likely that this Patrick Burke may be the Patrick Burke who leased a house and land in Aucloggeen Township along with John Robinson.

Indeed, there seems to have been a close connection between the Burke, Collins, Costello, and Robinson families in Annaghdown Parish. John Robinson was a witness at the marriage of Patrick Collins in 1842 and of James Costello and Anne Burke in 1844. Patrick Collins was a sponsor for the baptism of Mary Burke in 1838 and John & Maria Costello were sponsors for the baptism of Patrick Burke in 1843, both children of Patrick Burke and Mary Collins. While I certainly cannot vouch whether this Patrick Collins was one and the same person or whether the family members mentioned were closely related, these kinds of clues do provide some additional support a link between John Robinson of Annaghdown Parish, County Galway, and James Robinson of Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana.

As for clues from Robinson descendants in the United States about the Irish roots of the Robinson family, my research turned up nothing. Most of the living descendants of James Robinson did not really even know their ancestor was from Ireland. Even the ones who had heard that the Robinsons were Irish tended to doubt it since Robinson was an English name. James’s oldest son, William Edward Robinson, who probably was in the best position to learn stories of the Old World and pass them on to the next generation (see below), claimed the Robinsons were English. Even if they believed the Robinsons were Irish, none of the descendants knew from where in Ireland the Robinsons came.

As for the Robinson descendants in Ireland, Michael and I corresponded a few times but neither he nor I pursued any of the possible leads that I had recommended back in 1986. And quietly the Irish research just ended. I am certain that most of the older people I met in my visit to County Galway – like my cousin Michael Curran, John Craven, Mr. Mitchell, and the Hennellys – have passed away in the intervening thirty years and taken with them whatever else they might have been able to share with us. But I am indeed blessed that I did get a chance to talk with them while they were alive and record at least some of what they knew.

I read that Curran’s Hotel burned down in December 2002. The papers reported that the hotel had been sold for €4.3 million the previous April. Apparently the building was left unoccupied and there were some reports that homeless people moved into the hotel and they may have been responsible for the fire that destroyed the top two stories of the four-story hotel.[ref]”Galway city centre hotel destroyed by fire,” Dec. 17, 2002, https://www.irishtimes.com/news/galway-city-centre-hotel-destroyed-by-fire-1.452457; Lorna Siggins, “Gardai investigate Galway hotel blaze, Dec. 18, 2002, https://www.irishtimes.com/news/gardai-investigate-galway-hotel-blaze-1.1108459[/ref]

In 2005 my wife Jennifer and I took a honeymoon trip to Ireland. We planned a trip to travel all around the coast of the island, staying in bed and breakfasts and rented houses. But this time I rented a car! Of course, one of the places we would be driving through was County Galway. Indeed we had found a wonderful place, Delphi Lodge, in the northern part of the county only 8 miles from Leenaun where we planned to stay for five days and use as a base of operations. As we drove through Galway City from the south, I was shocked how much the city had changed in only twenty years. Ireland was undergoing a huge economic boom (some would say bubble) and there was construction going on everywhere.

The direct route to the Delphi Lodge went right past the Kilmilkin Church so I naturally stopped in to see in the plaque to William Robinson was still there. Sure enough, the plaque was there but they had nicely moved it inside where it wouldn’t suffer any further weathering.

On one of the day trips we went out to see the Cliffs of Moher and on the way back I talked Jennifer into making a side trip to see if the places I had bicycled around in 1986 looked like what I remembered.

I especially was interested in seeing if I could find where the old Robinson pub was. I realized that I never really did see where the site was. I remembered it was where the six roads came together at the source of the Cregg River but I never went back to Aucloggeen after getting a good look at the historic map of Aucloggeen in Galway City.

Even though it had been twenty years, we didn’t have GPS, and the map we had wasn’t detailed enough to show the side roads, I thought my memories were strong enough that I could find my way there. Going up N17 I saw the sign for Annaghdown much as I had seen it back in 1986 and I took the road down to the abbey ruins and memorial to the 1828 boating accident. But when I tried to retrace my way to Corrandulla Church to get my bearings I took the wrong road and got totally lost. Just as with Galway City, there had been a lot of new construction in this area and nothing looked familiar.

Eventually we came to the old 19th-century mill called Cregg Mill on the Cregg River and I convinced myself that Robinson’s pub must have been on the other side of the road from the mill, next to the river, land which was now quite vacant.

I parked the car and walked out onto the vacant land and found a concrete slab which I decided must have been the foundation of the old pub. After I took a couple of pictures of what I took to be the location of Robinson’s pub, Jennifer started complaining about my taking photos of nothing. So I left it at that and we headed back to Leenaun.

In 2017, I returned once again to trying to figure out about what I could about the Irish Robinsons. And with all the old maps now online and google maps it didn’t long  to figure out where Robinson’s pub was and how very wrong I had been in 2005. It was actually quite simple. John Craven had told me some thirty years earlier that Fahy’s pub stood on the exact site that Robinson’s pub after the old pub was torn down in the 1970s. And, guess, what! There is still a pub on the exact same site in 2017, although now it is called Peggy’s!

If Jennifer and I had continued down the road from here we were at Cregg Mill in 2005 just another half a mile, we would have seen the pub and I could have easily recognized where the six roads converged. But I realized I just didn’t remember ever seeing Fahy’s pub and just didn’t realize that a pub had been on this same spot continuously since the days of John Robinson!

I messaged, Aiden Leonard, the manager of Peggy’s and he confirmed that the present management renovated the interior of Fahy’s but the exterior was essentially the same. He also mentioned that there are plenty of locals who still speak of the old two-story thatched roof pub.

But you can bet that if I ever get back to Ireland again, I will be sure to stop and have a good Irish breakfast at Peggy’s!

A couple of weeks after I had contacted Aiden Leonard, I found through my father that Nancy Siegel, a Robinson cousin living in California, had earlier been in contact with Aiden and he had actually sent her a scan of a photograph of the old pub!

Hi Bruce,

Attached is an old photo of John Robinson’s two-story thatched roof pub in Aucloggeen, Annaghdown Parish, County Galway, opened by John around 1822. This photo was provided to me by Aiden Leonard, the current owner of Peggy’s Bar, Lounge and Restaurant, the successor to Robinson’s. It was taken when it was run by John’s granddaughter and called Kelly’s.

As Bruce Jr found out during his research, my GGG-GF John Robinson sold the pub to his daughter Margaret and her husband Thomas Mullrey when John and his son James Robinson (my GG-GF) left for America in the 1840s. Margaret’s daughter, also named Margaret “Peggy”, married John Kelly. They later took over the pub and renamed it Kelly’s Pub. At some point in the 1970s it burned down and was rebuilt as a single story structure. It stayed Kelly’s until the  late 1970s or 80s when it was sold and became Fahy’s. It was sold again 12 years ago and became Peggy’s. Aiden says that some old timers still refer to Kelly’s Pub!

Recently I re-read Bruce‘s report of his trip to Annaghdown. He mentioned Aucloggeen, so I started searching online for any pubs in Aucloggeen. Peggy’s came up. On a hunch I checked Facebook, and yes — Peggy’s has a FB page! I sent a private message and the rest, as they say, is history. The menu at Peggy’s looks quite good.

In his report, Bruce Jr mentioned an old etching he was shown of the thatched roof pub. Was it this photo that he saw? Or is there another picture out there we should search for?

More later re Burke and Collins.

Best regards,
Nancy

You can see that Robinson’s pub was in the exact same location on the 1839 map (now online!), the three buildings at the Y in the road in the southeasternmost corner of Aucloggeen Townland.

I was also able to mine more information out of Griffith’s than I had in 1986. I had not realized thirty years ago that there were maps that went with Griffith’s that showed the exact location of the holdings of the tenants. The maps were the same as the 1839 townland maps but there were no numbers on the 1839 map.[ref]For an explanation of the terms used in Griffith’s Valuation, see http://www.findmypast.ie/articles/griffiths-valuation—explanation-of-terms?_ga=1.238327622.739302107.1411396829[/ref]

If you go to

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

you can enter any family name and you will see a list of every entry with that family name who was in Griffith’s Valuation list. You can narrow the search by county (and further barony, poor law union, and parish) if desired. You can then click on any listing and see the original print page with that listing. Alternately you can click on the listing and see the original map showing the location of the listing. You can zoom in and zoom out of map and, furthermore, switch back and forth between the historical map and the modern map as well as different versions of the historical map.

As I found back in 1986, John Robinson’s land in Aucloggeen was listed in Griffith’s under both #1 and #5. The upper map (at the top center of the map) shows #1 was just land (14 acres, 2 roods, 2 perches) valued at 3L.15 with no house. #5 on the table is divided up among 16 different landowners and their separate holdings were not differentiated on the map. However, 13 of these 16 share in 106 acres with individual land and buildings valued at different amounts. The other three (Bridget Mulrooney, John Robinson, Honoria Kellehan) under #5 do not have land listed, only house, garden, and (for Robinson) offices. Mulrooney’s lot size was 38 perches, Robinson 16, and Kellehan 12. And yet Robinson buildings on this land were valued as much as the Aucloggeen church. These must be the three buildings seen at the bottom center of the lower map, in the exact same location as Patty’s bar today.

In addition the upper map shows Nineacres (bottom center-right) where John Robinson leased all 16 acres, 1 rood, and 38 perches. Nineacres borders on Aucloggeen and is about 650 feet away from the fork in the road where the pub stands.

In addition to Lewis, other topographical dictionaries gave more information about life in Annaghdown Parish lists “Aughelogun” [sic] as one of the two principal villages in that parish. [ref]John Gorton, ed., A Topographical Dictionary of Great Britain and Ireland, 3 vols. (London: Chapman and Hall, 1833) 1: 50.  The Irish and Welsh articles were done by G.N. Wright.[/ref]

Annaghdown is a vicarage in the dio. of Tuam. . . The church, situated in Annaghdown, was built about the year 1798, was built about the year 1798, by meas of a gift . . . from the late Board of First Fruits. Sittings 200; average attendance, fro 12 to 20. The Annaghdown Roman Catholic chapel is attended by from 600 to 700; the Woodpark school-house, used as a Roman Catholic chapel, is attended by 125;  and they have jointly two officiates. There are chapels also in Lackagh and Killascobe. In 1834, the Protestants of Annaghdown parish amounted to 27, and the Roman Catholics to 6,504; the Protestants of the united parishes to 43, and the Roman Catholics to 11,458; the day-schools of Annaghdown parish to 8, and the day-schools of the union to 16, with 374 boys and 185 girls.[ref]The Parliamentary Gazetteer of Ireland, Vol. 1, A-C (Dublin: A. Fullarton, 1846) 35.[/ref]

It is a lot easier doing Irish genealogy today with all the easily accessible online sources that weren’t available in 1986.

The Roman Catholic parish registers that I looked at with such difficulty in Dublin now all online to look at with difficulty. Here’s the online entry for Annaghdown Parish” at https://web.archive.org/web/20150715231718/http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1041

Microfilm 04222 / 03

Marriages

1821 to 1829

165 images

A register of marriages in each Deanery of the Diocese for parts of the years 1821 and 1822, with additions in many parishes to 1829.

Parishes as inscribed in register: Abbert, Abbeyknockmoy, Achill, Aghamore and Knock, Annadown, Annah, Arran, Athenry, Aughagour, Balla, Ballinakill, Ballindoon, Ballinrobe, Becan, Borriscarra, Clare Island, Claremorris, Corrofin and Claretuam, Crosboyne, Crossboyne and Tagheen, Devonagh, Donoughpatrick and Kilcoony, Drum, Dunmore, Garumna, Kilcoleman, Kilcommon, Kilgiver, Killereran, Killererin, Kilmeena, Kiltollagh, Kiltullagh, Kilvine, Lacka, Liskeava and Adrigool, Mayo, Moyrus, Newport, Taugheen and Crossboyne, Templetoher, Tuam, Turla and Westport.

Microfilm 04219 / 05

Baptisms

Sep. 1834 to 12 Sep. 1869

Baptisms

02 Feb. 1875 to 04 Jan. 1880

Marriages

15 Mar. 1834 to 29 Nov. 1868

Marriages

06 Feb. 1875 to 12 June 1880

189 images

But what has made the job of locating individuals in these parish registers even easier is that local genealogical societies across Ireland have created databases of the names in almost all of the 19th-century Catholic and Protestant parish registers. The parishes in West Galway were done by Galway Family History Society West (http://www.galwayroots.com/west/home) while the parishes in East Galway were completed by East Galway Family History Society (http://www.galwayroots.com/east/home). These databases are keyword searchable, for a fee, at http://www.rootsireland.ie/

To compare, I spent hours at the National Library in Dublin staring at all the Roman Catholic records for the parish of Annaghdown for the years 1834-1868 and found not a single record for Robinson which led me to suspect the Robinsons were Protestant. But doing a search for “Robinson” in Annaghdown Parish records on http://www.rootsireland.ie/ immediately found four records with the name Robinson in the marriage records for these years that I had simply missed. (At least I was right that there was no mention of Robinson in the baptismal records!)

 

Witness 3: William Allen

The most significant entry in the Annaghdown Parish register is, of course, that of the marriage of Thomas Mulry and Margaret Robinson which quite clearly demonstrates that Margaret Robinson was a Roman Catholic. Although it is not clear who the John Robinson was who was witness to these three weddings, the odds are it is to the John Robinson who we believe was Margaret Robinson’s father, the only John Robinson we have evidence of as resident in Annaghdown Parish.

As to who this Bridget Robinson is who witnessed two marriages with John Robinson, it would seem likely that she is John Robinson’s wife. Since the name “Bridget” was not one used by the descendant’s of John Robinson in naming their children, we can presume Bridget was not the mother of John Robinson’s children, a daughter, or a sister. Rather it seems like that Bridget was the second wife of John Robinson.

If John Robinson’s daughter Margaret was Roman Catholic it is almost a certainty that John Robinson was Catholic. In the 1911 census, marriages between Catholics and Protestants comprised less than 1% of the marriages in Ireland and one can imagine that number was even lower in the early 19th century.[ref]”Marriage rate between Catholics and Protestants under 1% in 1911,” The Irish Times, Jan. 30, 2015,” https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/marriage-rate-between-catholics-and-protestants-under-1-in-1911-1.2084775[/ref] This was the kind of evidence I was looking for in the National Library back in 1986. If I had seen this back then, I would not have gone to the lengths I did to pursue the Protestant Robinsons, as fascinating as it was to learn about them.

Finding solid evidence that the Annaghdown Robinsons were Catholic also gives greater strength to the story of the two priests, William Robinson and Edward Robinson. But there is still is the problem of trying to find a direct connection between the Annaghdown Robinsons and these two priests.I could find no new insights from online sources to confirm the story of the two priests. Indeed no evidence has been found in Ireland apart from the stories that Michael Curran said he heard from his aunts and there is the possibility that his aunts could have heard about plaques to priests named Robinson from people who stopped in at the pub and the aunts simply adopted the priests as their own, imagining the whole scenario.

However, I still find intriguing the fact that James Robinson named his first son William Edward Robinson, rather than John Robinson (after his father) or Patrick Robinson (after Mary Burke’s father). In addition, there was one other story I learned in my American research that I think lends strong support to the story of William and Edward Robinson. And this comes from a person who surely would have known the story if anyone, William Edward Robinson himself.

Although William Edward Robinson said the Robinsons were English and seemed to want to distance himself from Ireland, he must have heard many tales of County Galway from both his mother and father. William Edward was a young man around 19 years old when his father died. Furthermore William Edward lived until the ripe old age of 84 so he had plenty of years to pass on his memories to his grandchildren. I spent an afternoon with one of William Edward’s grandchildren, James F. Mullen, shortly after coming back from Ireland and he regaled me with all the stories that he remembered his grandfather telling him. And one of the stories that James Mullen remembered was that William Edward would say that his grandfather would have no trouble getting into heaven because he had one son who could fight his way into heaven and another son who could pray his way into heaven. James always thought that meant William’s grandfather had one son who was soldier and another son who was a priest, but James did not remember any more detail than that. He did not, for example, ever hear his grandfather saying that he was named after two priests who died young. And yet this fits the story of John Robinson (William Edward’s grandfather) because he did have a son (James) who was a soldier and it makes the story of having another son who was a priest more believable.

Whether John’s priest son was the William or Edward or both for whom we have plaques is another matter. William was a common enough name among Robinsons in Tynagh Parish (see below) but Edward was not. Perhaps only William Robinson and not Edward was John’s son. Perhaps John named his son Edward after his wife’s father but we do not know the name of John’s wife. Further complicating the matter is that the only evidence we had that the priest’s name was actually Edward was Mr. Mitchell in Menlough Parish back in 1986 and we never learned the source of his information.

Still taken altogether – the stories of Michael’s aunts, the black plaques, James naming his first son William Edward, James Mullen’s story about the soldier and priest – lend a lot of credence to the story of the two priests, enough to continue to tell the story until proven not to be true.

When she got married in 1848, Margaret Robinson undoubtedly would have been married in the Corrandulla Church (also known as St. Brendan’s)  which I discovered was actually built in 1837 at the same time the Robinsons were living in the area.[ref]”Notice to Builders,” Galway Patriot, Oct. 18, 1837, http://paulgreaney.blogspot.com/2015/03/1837-corrandulla-church-notice-to.html[/ref] When I was staying at the Hennellys I didn’t think the Corrandulla Church was that old but now that I realize how old it was and that the Annaghdown Robinsons were definitely Catholic, I have a greater appreciation that the Corrandulla Church was the parish church that the Robinsons must have attended.

As for Church of Ireland records for Annaghdown Parish, Brigid Clesham had written me back in 1986 that she had found no mention of Robinsons in the Annaghdown Parish records. In 1987 the parish sent what records they did have covering the years 1850-1897 to the Representative Church Body (RCB) Library in Dublin which must have been the records Brigid had looked through for me back in 1986. The great loss is that “a register of baptisms 1800 & 1811-77, marriages 1815-56, and burials 1835-56 was destroyed in the fire in the Public Record Office of Ireland in 1922.”[ref]http://ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/ABC/AnnaghadownParishRegisterList.pdf[/ref]

As to where John Robinson of Annaghdown came from, we have very little evidence. There are pockets of Robinsons all over Ireland. If we stick just to other parts of Galway there are at least four clusters of Robinsons in the early 19th century: Galway City, Loughrea, Tynagh, and Tuam. The Galway, Loughrea, and Tuam Robinsons are heavily if not exclusively Church of Ireland, leaving only Tynagh as a possible point of origin. In addition, both John Craven and Michael Curran believed that the Robinsons came from Tynagh Parish. [ref]As with Annaghdown Parish, there are no Church of Ireland extant records for Tynagh Parish for the early 19th century. Two volumes of parish registers, comprising baptisms (1815-1878), marriages (1819- 44), and burials (1824-69) that were sent for safekeeping to The Public Record Officer in Dublin were destroyed in the 1922 fire. Remaining parish records from the years 1855-1934 were sent to the RCB Library in 2007. See http://ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PQRSTUVWZ/TynaghParishRegisterList.pdf[/ref]

From the Tynagh Parish Roman Catholic register, I was able to identify the following Robinsons as adults in Tynagh in the early 19th century who could have been siblings or 1st cousins of John Robinson.

The fact that there are two different men named James Robinson and two others named Samuel Robinson at about the same stage in life in the 1820s suggests that there are at least two Robinson lines in Tynagh Parish, perhaps descended from Robinson brothers who either came with their father or moved together to Tynagh Parish. And if there were two Jameses and two Samuels there may very well have been two Johns since John was probably the most common name in Ireland at the time. The fact that only one John shows up in Tynagh Parish suggests possibly that the other John Robinson moved away. It isn’t too far of a reach that this John Robinson moved to Annaghdown Parish, especially considering the popular belief in Annaghdown Parish that the Robinsons came from Tynagh.

As to who the fathers of these Robinsons were, including the father of the John Robinson of Annaghdown, it is anybody’s guess. One might guess John, James, or Samuel, since parents tended to name children after themselves and their own parents. However, the Tynagh Parish records peter out before 1810 so other sources would have to be used to determine the names of earlier Robinsons.

1852 UK General Election Map

The 48 elected MPs who formed the Irish Brigade came almost exclusively from the central part of Ireland, including the 2 MPs from County Galway.[ref]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1852_United_Kingdom_general_election[/ref]

Fortunately, things have gotten much better for the old Tuam Cathedral (St. Mary’s) since when I saw it in June 1986 as the photos and video show below. According to wikipedia, there were “some major renovations” between 1985 and 1993 and now the cathedral is open to visitors on Friday during summer months as well as Sunday services. Here is a video of a recent virtual tour of the interior of the cathedral.

Cregg Castle is also doing much better and is now open to houseguests.

Here’s the advertisement on Airbnb:

About the space

Cregg Castle is a magical place built in 1648 by the Kirwin Family, one of the 12 tribes of Galway. It is set on 180 acres of pasture and beautiful woodlands.

Your host, Artist Alan Murray who currently hosts the Gallery of Angels in the main rooms.

Sounds like a great deal!